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INTERVIEWS. COVERAGE.
ANALYSIS.


5 COACHES. 1 DEBATE. HIGH SCHOOL DANCE TEAM VS. DANCE STUDIO TRAINING | NO COUNTS GIVEN #11
The conversation of the year, high school dance team versus dance studio training. What really sets dancers up for success post high-school life? Can high school dance team athletes make it onto an elite college program with only high school training? How necessary is dance studio training? Thank you to our sponsor, Dance Team Union! Head over to www.danceteamunion.com for more information on their regional and national events! Follow Kyle Rush, host of No Counts Given @itsk
Aug 14, 20251 min read


INTERNATIONAL DANCE LEAGUE, MY VIP EXPERIENCE AND IDL STOLE THEIR NAME? | NO COUNTS GIVEN #10
In this milestone 10th episode of the No Counts Given Podcast, host Kyle Rush takes you behind the scenes of the International Dance League (IDL) and the evolving world of competitive dance. Kyle dives into the controversy between IDL OG (2019) and IDL NEW (2025), transparency issues in scoring, and the ongoing battle to elevate dance as a true professional sport. Thank you to our sponsor, Dance Team Union! Head over to www.danceteamunion.com for more information on their reg
Aug 7, 20251 min read


THE VIRAL CHAMPS - EMMA AND SOPHIA WITH GRAND VALLEY STATE UNIVERSITY | NO COUNTS GIVEN #9
In this episode, I sit down with Emma Desiderio and Sophia Mervenne, the powerhouse coaching duo behind Grand Valley State University’s Dance Team. Thank you to our incredible sponsor of today’s show! DANCE TEAM UNION! Head to www.danceteamunion.com to learn more about their summer camps, regionals and national events! We dive into their journey from athletes to head coaches, the legacy and evolution of GVSU Dance, and how they’ve continued to build a championship-caliber pro
Jul 31, 20251 min read


DANCE COACHES, THIS ONE IS FOR YOU! BUILDING TEAM CULTURE WITH ROB MILLER | NO COUNTS GIVEN 8
In this episode of No Counts Given, Kyle Rush sits down with Rob Miller from Proactive Coaching for an inspiring and honest conversation about leadership, culture building, and the changing landscape of coaching generational athletes. Rob brings decades of experience working with coaches and teams across the country and drops invaluable insight that every dance coach, athlete, and leader needs to hear. Special thank you to our amazing sponsor, @DanceTeamUnion - go to www.d
Jul 24, 20251 min read


D1A POM AND JAZZ DOUBLE TITLE!? Sara Heptig on Kansas State University Success! | No Counts Given #7
Join me for a MAJOR sit down chat with Sara Heptig, head coach of the Kansas State University Classy Cats, to talk all things game day, tradition, and building a legacy. HUGE THANK YOU to our sponsor Dance Team Union! Visit their website for all things camps, regional competitions and nationals at www.danceteamunion.com From performing on the field to competing on the nationals stage, Sara chats about the culture she’s created within the K-State spirit program, the evolution
Jul 17, 20251 min read


Quinton Peron on Fullerton’s D1 Title, Pro Dance World & SDSU Jazz | No Counts Given #6
In this episode of No Counts Given, we sit down with Quinton Peron, an award-winning choreographer, former Rams cheerleader, and one of the most influential figures in the dance team world. Thank you to our sponsor Dance Team Union! Go to www.danceteamunion.com for more information on their summer camps, regional competitions and national events! We dive into his recent collaboration with the San Diego State University Dance Team and explore how he approaches choreography acr
Jul 10, 20251 min read


Phil Wright Interview | Hot Topics: What’s Hurting Dance Teams in 2025? | No Counts Given #5
We have a legend on the show!! World-renowned choreographer, Phil Wright, joins me for a unfiltered conversation about pressure, purpose, and representation in the dance industry. Major THANK YOU to our sponsor, @DanceTeamUnion - head to www.danceteamunion.com to learn more about their Camps, Competitions and Nationals events! Phil is best known as the creator of The Parent Jam, his work as a featured choreographer on Disney Channel, Lil Nas X, Cardi B, and Will Smith. He’s
Jun 26, 20251 min read


Maya Zafrani on the Oregon Duck Dancers, from UDA to The College Classic | No Counts Given #4
Follow Maya Zafrani and the University of Oregon Duck Dancers through a powerful and transformative season unlike any other. Major thank you to our sponsor, Dance Team Union! Visit their website at www.danceteamunion.com for more information on their competitions and camps! From redefining their team culture and stepping away from UDA to competing on the world stage at the World Cheerleading Championships and the College Classic. You'll get an inside look at their recruitmen
Jun 19, 20251 min read


Bianca Zumbo Caryl on Coaching With Purpose, Pressure, and Passion | No Counts Given #3
Thank you to our incredible sponsor, @DanceTeamUnion visit www.danceteamunion.com to learn more about Summer Camps, Regional Competitions and National Events... Hey, I might see you there! From high-level choreography to program culture, Bianca opens up about what it takes to lead a nationally ranked dance team year after year. We talk about ASU’s transition from UDA to DTU, building a program rooted in character, and how she’s preparing the next generation of dancers for b
Jun 12, 20251 min read


Sammy McFadden on Authenticity, Visual Protection & Pressure | No Counts Given #2
From her ballet roots to dominating the sidelines at LSU and beyond, Sammy McFadden @sammymcfadden is a force in the dance team world. In this no-fluff conversation, Sammy opens up about her unique journey to the top, her classical training, the insane music restrictions and the iconic pieces she has choreographed. Venturing into the competitive landscape of Los Angeles post-graduation, Sammy furthered her commercial dance career, earning representation from the esteemed t
Jun 5, 20251 min read


Amanda Gaines & Melissa McGhee on Leaks, Legacy, and Leadership | No Counts Given #1 @itskylerush
Major THANK YOU to our Sponsor, @DanceTeamUnion . Head to www.danceteamunion.com to learn more about Summer Camps, Regionals and Nationals! Follow us: @nocountsgiven on social media platforms, or visit our website www.nocountsgiven.com Follow Melissa McGhee and The Ohio State University Dance Team @mmcghee65 @ohiostatedanceteam Follow Amanda Gaines and the University of Minnesota Dance Team @amandagaines_ @uofmdanceteam Follow Kyle Rush, host of No Counts Given @itskylerush
May 29, 20251 min read
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